So, I did it. Like there’s no money to be made. AMY GOODMAN: We’re going to break and then come back to this discussion with Jaime Lowe. So, it was present in the Big Bang. Like, I don’t want to do this to rest my life. You know? JAIME LOWE: So it’s really cheap. Occasionally Lowe’s biography bogs down in digression; but her interviews, analyses, and commentaries are always engaging and often bittersweet, as when she discusses the public’s fascination with celebrities and its accompanying schadenfreude: “There’s a small explicit thrill, envy almost, in watching public figures self-destruct, particularly when it involves sex, drugs, and creativity, … JAIME LOWE: Yeah. Some of her memories are gut wrenching and awful, some are a hallucinogenic dream. Jamie Lee Curtis discusses her extraordinary career with Vanity Fair, from 'Halloween,' 'Trading Places,' and 'My Girl' to 'Freaky Friday' and 'Knives Out. And I think that the—so, I think the sexual assault actually is part of it. AMY GOODMAN: —risking their lives and, as you said, dying. Polio Vaccine Inventor Jonas Salk’s Son Urges More Access to, Constitutional Lawyer: Trump Is a Clear & Present Danger, a Senate Impeachment Trial Is Needed Now, Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor: Impeachment Is Late Attempt to Curb Violence & Racism at Heart of Trump Era. AMY GOODMAN: And explain what lithium is, and explain how—what effect it had on you and why you eventually, after decades, had to give it up. AMY GOODMAN: And were you self-aware? I thought I was going to be going to war in Nicaragua. I think that when you think about how the FDA has approved medications and how recently that’s been, lithium wasn’t approved, actually, until the early '70s. JAIME LOWE: So, I actually—you know, I was a real menace. The journey, I mean, it’s like—it’s a magical place, for me, like I—and, I think, for anyone who’s there, because it has this kind of moonscape. So—. I think Carrie Fisher has—I’m going to paraphrase her, because I can’t actually say her words perfectly, because she’s amazing, but she’s basically said “bipolar” is like a sexual bear. NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, one of the things that you point out—I mean, a part of the reason that this memoir is so remarkable is that, you know, there is still a lot of stigma attached to mental illness, so it took a lot of courage for you to write as you did. In an interview with parents Friday, Elizabeth McBane, mother of two high school … We speak with journalist and author Jaime Lowe about her remarkable memoir, “Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind.” She shares and investigates her experience with mental illness and the drugs used to combat it. So, that was not a good idea, although who—I mean, who was to know? It was actually—I think I was talking about it with you earlier, and I said mid-'80s, and I should have said early ’80s, because Carter actually had a Mental Health Systems Act that he was going to—that he had put in place, that would have had community care. And so, it’s nice to know that those things exist in other people’s world, as well. It was OK. And all of the side effects I had felt initially were like there, but way less. Everybody sort of has their own—you know, as the symptoms are very similar, but each person really—it’s the hardest thing to treat, because it’s just your own experience is slightly different from the person next to you, which is why it’s really hard to tackle as a national issue. But I was molested when I was 13. I thought because I didn't talk about the assault or even think about it much, everything was as resolved as it could be. This is Democracy Now! How many doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists have talked about this, where they now can only see a patient for something like 20 minutes or less, which only leaves them time to prescribe? Model Daisy Lowe, 30, actress Jaime Winstone, 34, and their TV producer friend Emily Ann Sonnet joined protesters on their first day of a fortnight-long campaign of chaos in London. We speak with journalist and author Jaime Lowe about her remarkable memoir, “Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind.” She shares and investigates her … AMY GOODMAN: Meaning the high and then the low. Victor Goldfeld: The _Heeb_ Interview. View Jaime Lowe’s profile on LinkedIn, the world’s largest professional community. And some of it was very—you know, some parts of mental illness are kind of funny. AMY GOODMAN: Can you think of a moment where someone intervened, when you were pushing them away, that made an enormous difference in your life? And I get a lot of letters from people who have read the book or who read the article I wrote for the Times Magazine. And so, that’s where I ended up. Jaime, it’s great to have you with us and to continue this conversation. NERMEEN SHAIKH: The work that you’ve done. And it’s been used for millennia. Your parents are divorced, so you say you’ve got, you know, many, many parents. Don't worry, we'll never share or sell your information. Polio Vaccine Inventor Jonas Salk’s Son Urges More Access to, Constitutional Lawyer: Trump Is a Clear & Present Danger, a Senate Impeachment Trial Is Needed Now, Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor: Impeachment Is Late Attempt to Curb Violence & Racism at Heart of Trump Era. April 20, 2009. She shares and investigates her experience with mental illness and the drugs used to combat it. In Part 1 of our discussion, you talked all about, well, being in a psychiatric ward at UCLA at the age of 16. We rely on contributions from our viewers and listeners to do our work. NERMEEN SHAIKH: And what was your experience there? JAIME LOWE: Yeah. We rely on contributions from our viewers and listeners to do our work. You know, two men died this year who were inmate firefighters. 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Adriano Espaillat Tests Positive for Coronavirus After Receiving 2nd Dose of Vaccine. You don’t have—, AMY GOODMAN: But even the psychiatrists who work in clinics—, AMY GOODMAN: —are not given the time to actually talk to their patients. Jaime Lowe is the author of Digging for Dirt: The Life and Death of ODB and Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind. AMY GOODMAN: “Hungry Ghost” by Alynda Segarra of Hurray for the Riff Raff, performing here in our Democracy Now! NERMEEN SHAIKH: And do you—from the people that you heard from, all the people you received letters from, after you wrote that New York Times piece, and, no doubt, after this book, as well, did many people say that those around them, those close to them, had responded in this way—in other words, thinking that they had a choice and they just had to get it together, or however people understand it? Let’s start now by talking about the use of prescription medication for antidepressants among all ages increasing nearly 400 percent—over what period of time? So that’s something that many people who are bipolar experience. Andrew Boucher Recommended for you. AMY GOODMAN: Does it always come with it? And describing it is not something that I feel bad about myself for. JAIME LOWE: It’s funny, because my concerns were probably more professional than they were about being bipolar and coming out as bipolar, just because, like I said earlier, I am—I have no filter. He just said, you know, “I think everyone experiences a little bit of mental illness.” And I think that that's true. With a knack for listening and passion for both people and politics, Opelika’s Jamie Lowe may remind you of Barack Obama – if the former president had a southern twang.. It’s a comparison the humbly confident Lowe may not accept, but he has built a pretty impressive political resume for himself. I mean, it was an illness that you were, you know, afflicted with, not something that you had the volition, you know, to control. So, the lithium, for me, when I took it, I didn’t actually feel that many side effects. I think that that’s really excellent in some ways, because the pills can really help, and I think it’s also really detrimental in other ways, because you have this shift from analysis to, you know, basically prescription, where you have—. Your fears at the time? JAIME LOWE: I’m always concerned about the mentally ill in this country, because the healthcare doesn’t even cover enough mental illness coverage. So can you say what role you think trauma plays in this? And actually, it was earlier than that, and the manic episode that followed was that winter. NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, while you were in the psychiatric ward, you were kept for a period of time in isolation. And they’re not really hotels. And I had this moment where I was like, “I don’t have any idea. December 2, 2008. I’m Amy Goodman, with Nermeen Shaikh. He was—as an elder person, he sort of had a bout of depression that was pretty serious. Democracy Now! “Thirsty for Democracy: The Poisoning of an American City”: Complete Democracy Now! JAIME LOWE: Yeah. You talked about traveling to the Bolivian salt mines, where half of the world’s lithium is found. Jaime Lowe Jaime Lowe begins CPT. Lowe notes mental illness is still associated with social stigma despite affecting tens of millions of Americans. So, I then ended up in L.A. for three months with my family and then came back here and was like pretty depressed for six months. The good part was when I kind of came to the realization that I needed to take the medication. Interview: Jaime Lowe, Author of Digging For Dirt: The Life and Death of ODB by Zach Baron. And I started—I like was—I quit my job. And that was like, I just started acting really weird. I don’t—like I haven’t—the courage part didn’t really even occur to me, because I don’t—I’ve always talked a lot about being bipolar. But no. And I wanted to do it in a way where it was not a traditional memoir or was only my story. I had been like whispering all of these, you know, conspiracy theories to different patients. Explain. She lives in Brooklyn, New York. I was getting—I had a job offer. Like, it’s just there are—you know, 30 percent of people in homeless shelters are mentally ill. Twenty-four percent of people in state prisons are mentally ill. You know, there’s a lot of—there are a lot of people to be concerned about. You write about many different kinds of issues. I mean, there are so many things that are just beyond imaginable. JAIME LOWE: Yes. 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